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		<title>By: TheFeministBreeder</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/breastfeeding-supplements/#comment-45094</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFeministBreeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how I missed this post - I was a galactagogue junkie during the year that I was working and pumping. In the end, I&#039;m not sure they did all that much to help, but I also realize now that I probably didn&#039;t need them as much as I thought I did either.  I always felt like my supply was in crisis mode, but if I was able to work away from my baby for sometimes 2-3 days at a time, and the child NEVER, EVER had to have formula, then obviously my supply was not all that bad. At one point the midwives even prescribed Reglan to me, but after I filled the &#039;script, I decided I couldn&#039;t take it.  It threatens to make a person crazy, and I&#039;m already crazy enough.

I think I really needed to hear somebody tell me that I WAS making enough milk and that I&#039;m not supposed to be pumping 4 or 5 gallons a day.  I sat down and sometimes got 8 or 9 ounces out of ONE side - that&#039;s pretty excellent.  I didn&#039;t think so at the time though.  I could have used a few more chill pills than any more dang fenugreek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how I missed this post &#8211; I was a galactagogue junkie during the year that I was working and pumping. In the end, I&#8217;m not sure they did all that much to help, but I also realize now that I probably didn&#8217;t need them as much as I thought I did either.  I always felt like my supply was in crisis mode, but if I was able to work away from my baby for sometimes 2-3 days at a time, and the child NEVER, EVER had to have formula, then obviously my supply was not all that bad. At one point the midwives even prescribed Reglan to me, but after I filled the &#8216;script, I decided I couldn&#8217;t take it.  It threatens to make a person crazy, and I&#8217;m already crazy enough.</p>
<p>I think I really needed to hear somebody tell me that I WAS making enough milk and that I&#8217;m not supposed to be pumping 4 or 5 gallons a day.  I sat down and sometimes got 8 or 9 ounces out of ONE side &#8211; that&#8217;s pretty excellent.  I didn&#8217;t think so at the time though.  I could have used a few more chill pills than any more dang fenugreek.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found this post, catching up....

I have a friend who could not breast feed either of her sons, she had very low supply. She tried domperidone, and fenugreek, and had lactation consultants out the wazoo helping her (unfortunately her La Leche League consultant was very pushy and dismissive of her physical problem, calling it a &quot;mental block&quot;, and made her very upset), but to no avail, she ended up on formula for both her sons by six weeks, respectively. 

It devastated her, and of course, my &quot;enough milk for triplets&quot; situation didn&#039;t help her feelings of inadequacy. Sometimes, even the pill, and rigorous pumping can&#039;t help, I guess. I tried to find articles and support groups for women who had her problem, in how to cope, and how to not blame yourself, or feel bad for not giving your child the best start, all those issues that come along with not being able to breastfeed, but came up rather empty handed other than a few articles. 

Do you have anywhere I can point to? I would love to be able to share that with other breastfeeding moms I know. I think it might really help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this post, catching up&#8230;.</p>
<p>I have a friend who could not breast feed either of her sons, she had very low supply. She tried domperidone, and fenugreek, and had lactation consultants out the wazoo helping her (unfortunately her La Leche League consultant was very pushy and dismissive of her physical problem, calling it a &#8220;mental block&#8221;, and made her very upset), but to no avail, she ended up on formula for both her sons by six weeks, respectively. </p>
<p>It devastated her, and of course, my &#8220;enough milk for triplets&#8221; situation didn&#8217;t help her feelings of inadequacy. Sometimes, even the pill, and rigorous pumping can&#8217;t help, I guess. I tried to find articles and support groups for women who had her problem, in how to cope, and how to not blame yourself, or feel bad for not giving your child the best start, all those issues that come along with not being able to breastfeed, but came up rather empty handed other than a few articles. </p>
<p>Do you have anywhere I can point to? I would love to be able to share that with other breastfeeding moms I know. I think it might really help.</p>
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		<title>By: Dou-la-la</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/breastfeeding-supplements/#comment-44759</link>
		<dc:creator>Dou-la-la</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or do you share my concern that their widespread promotion leads to a perception that low milk supply is more common than it really is?&quot; Yes, I do share this concern. This is a really, really, really good point. 

I worry that sharing stories of overcoming extreme difficulty can sometimes have a similar effect. My own story, which I shared on my blog, was just such an extreme case - it took us five months, and it was CONSTANT hard work to get there. I shared it with the intention of being inspirational, but I can also see why someone wavering would look at what I had to do and feel that I was nuts for going to such lengths, and think &quot;Sheesh, if it&#039;s going to be THAT hard? Forget it!&quot;

Even the promotion of good LCs can backfire in a similar way. &quot;You mean I have to hire this expensive specialist to do something &#039;natural&#039;? Never mind.&quot; 

It is such a double-edged sword.
.-= Dou-la-la´s last post ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/2010/01/wordless-wednesday-mamafit.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wordless Wednesday: #mamafit&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or do you share my concern that their widespread promotion leads to a perception that low milk supply is more common than it really is?&#8221; Yes, I do share this concern. This is a really, really, really good point. </p>
<p>I worry that sharing stories of overcoming extreme difficulty can sometimes have a similar effect. My own story, which I shared on my blog, was just such an extreme case &#8211; it took us five months, and it was CONSTANT hard work to get there. I shared it with the intention of being inspirational, but I can also see why someone wavering would look at what I had to do and feel that I was nuts for going to such lengths, and think &#8220;Sheesh, if it&#8217;s going to be THAT hard? Forget it!&#8221;</p>
<p>Even the promotion of good LCs can backfire in a similar way. &#8220;You mean I have to hire this expensive specialist to do something &#8216;natural&#8217;? Never mind.&#8221; </p>
<p>It is such a double-edged sword.<br />
.-= Dou-la-la´s last post ..<a href="http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/2010/01/wordless-wednesday-mamafit.html" rel="nofollow">Wordless Wednesday: #mamafit</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried EVERYTHING to increase my milk supply because I actually knew in my case there wasn&#039;t enough. Ended up taking fenugreek for a few months, not really knowing if it was working or not. Then I found out you have to take about 6 to 10 times more than I was taking in order for it to be effective, so I stopped. Anything that you have to take in such high doses makes me nervous, and I wasn&#039;t all that comfortable with domperidone so I just supplemented the missing 3 oz per day with formula. In my case, since I was supplementing so little it made no sense to ingest something that could have adverse and unstudied effects. Personally, I would only use supplements if my supply was, say, 60% or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried EVERYTHING to increase my milk supply because I actually knew in my case there wasn&#039;t enough. Ended up taking fenugreek for a few months, not really knowing if it was working or not. Then I found out you have to take about 6 to 10 times more than I was taking in order for it to be effective, so I stopped. Anything that you have to take in such high doses makes me nervous, and I wasn&#039;t all that comfortable with domperidone so I just supplemented the missing 3 oz per day with formula. In my case, since I was supplementing so little it made no sense to ingest something that could have adverse and unstudied effects. Personally, I would only use supplements if my supply was, say, 60% or less.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie - Home with the Kids</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/breastfeeding-supplements/#comment-44709</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie - Home with the Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My younger sister had to use fenugreek early on while nursing her second. Either it did the job for her or her supply finally made it up on its own.

I&#039;m the sort to never have trouble. Breastfeeding #3 now, she&#039;s nearly a year old. I&#039;m glad they never tried to make me supplement in the hospital, as she was small (1 ounce above &quot;low birth weight&quot; despite being full term) and lost right up to their maximum tolerance. Then gained it all back in her first week. Plus averaging about 2 lbs a month gain for her first 4 months.

But if you need help getting that supply up, it would be nice for doctors to recommend ways for the mother to bring up her supply rather than just say &quot;formula&quot;. That&#039;s just taking the easy way out.
.-= Stephanie - Home with the Kids´s last post ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homewiththekids.com/blog/2010/01/how-do-you-find-blogs-to-comment-on/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Do You Find Blogs to Comment On?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My younger sister had to use fenugreek early on while nursing her second. Either it did the job for her or her supply finally made it up on its own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the sort to never have trouble. Breastfeeding #3 now, she&#8217;s nearly a year old. I&#8217;m glad they never tried to make me supplement in the hospital, as she was small (1 ounce above &#8220;low birth weight&#8221; despite being full term) and lost right up to their maximum tolerance. Then gained it all back in her first week. Plus averaging about 2 lbs a month gain for her first 4 months.</p>
<p>But if you need help getting that supply up, it would be nice for doctors to recommend ways for the mother to bring up her supply rather than just say &#8220;formula&#8221;. That&#8217;s just taking the easy way out.<br />
.-= Stephanie &#8211; Home with the Kids´s last post ..<a href="http://www.homewiththekids.com/blog/2010/01/how-do-you-find-blogs-to-comment-on/" rel="nofollow">How Do You Find Blogs to Comment On?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think milk supply can be affected by a number of factors, but diet plays an important role.  When I worried about my supply while breastfeeding my daughter, I drank mother&#039;s milk tea but had to stop because it made my baby gassy.  Anyway, I don&#039;t think you&#039;re blowing this out of proportion.  Mothers are always worrying that they&#039;re not doing enough for their children and I think folks in marketing count on that to sell products.
.-= Jessica´s last post ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenmamma.org/blog/2010/01/05/young-jedis/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Young Jedis&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think milk supply can be affected by a number of factors, but diet plays an important role.  When I worried about my supply while breastfeeding my daughter, I drank mother&#8217;s milk tea but had to stop because it made my baby gassy.  Anyway, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re blowing this out of proportion.  Mothers are always worrying that they&#8217;re not doing enough for their children and I think folks in marketing count on that to sell products.<br />
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		<title>By: Francesca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re blowing the thing out of proportion, and you&#039;re raising a very important issue here.  We&#039;re not offered any supplements in my country.  I drank herbal teas by the liter following the advice of my anthroposophy doctor (fennel seeds and aniseeds, and a Weleda herbal tea is also very popular over here).  I was one of those true cases with low milk supply.  During the two months I expressed milk for my daughter I noticed that I had plenty of milk in the morning, little in the afternoon, and almost nothing in the evening.
.-= Francesca´s last post ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fuoriborgo.com/fuoriborgo/2010/01/under-my-tree-giracolore.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Under my tree: spinning color&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re blowing the thing out of proportion, and you&#8217;re raising a very important issue here.  We&#8217;re not offered any supplements in my country.  I drank herbal teas by the liter following the advice of my anthroposophy doctor (fennel seeds and aniseeds, and a Weleda herbal tea is also very popular over here).  I was one of those true cases with low milk supply.  During the two months I expressed milk for my daughter I noticed that I had plenty of milk in the morning, little in the afternoon, and almost nothing in the evening.<br />
.-= Francesca´s last post ..<a href="http://www.fuoriborgo.com/fuoriborgo/2010/01/under-my-tree-giracolore.html" rel="nofollow">Under my tree: spinning color</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: coffeewithjulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffeewithjulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, forgot to mention last night re La Leche league. I believe this group is by far the most helpful support for new mothers looking for breastfeeding support. I&#039;d suggest that any new mom have a consult with their local leader immediately after leaving the hospital for the best chances of successful, long-term breastfeeding. Not only is this group accessible physically by having leaders in neighbours everywhere, but they are accessible from a financial perspective, removing the barrier of cost from lactation support. My neighbour is a leader and she gave me wonderful assistance in the early days and I know she gives countless hours of volunteer help to other women.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, forgot to mention last night re La Leche league. I believe this group is by far the most helpful support for new mothers looking for breastfeeding support. I&#8217;d suggest that any new mom have a consult with their local leader immediately after leaving the hospital for the best chances of successful, long-term breastfeeding. Not only is this group accessible physically by having leaders in neighbours everywhere, but they are accessible from a financial perspective, removing the barrier of cost from lactation support. My neighbour is a leader and she gave me wonderful assistance in the early days and I know she gives countless hours of volunteer help to other women.<br />
.-= coffeewithjulie´s last post ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CoffeeWithJulie/~3/qX5VELOXWQA/" rel="nofollow">Lucky number 13</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: coffeewithjulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffeewithjulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to preface my comments by saying that I am ill-educated on breastfeeding stats, etc. I do believe that the &quot;breast is best&quot; (it is nature&#039;s way, after all!) but I would not classify myself as an advocate per se. Your post is interesting and thoughtful though so I would like to share my thoughts too.

I think that the &quot;breast is best&quot; campaigning, while helpful in so many ways, may also be contributing to the large numbers of women who cite &quot;low milk production&quot; for why they stopped breastfeeding. It may not be an entirely true response, but it is certainly the one that receives less social scorn when faced with having to provide an answer to why you are not breastfeeding.

As for the use of medication, I know only one person who has ever used meds to increase milk supply and she was an adopting mother. Are there stats for how widespread the use is of these meds? It would be interesting to know because I would suspect that most women &quot;give up&quot; breastfeeding before meds are even suggested and that only the most committed and persistent mothers are offered the option of meds when a medical professional is not sure why a baby isn&#039;t gaining weight.

My girlfriend, as example, just gave birth 2 months ago. Her baby lost a greater % of weight while in hosptial than the hospital considers &quot;normal&quot; and so the nursing staff told her it was policy to supplement with formula at that point. Unfortunately though, her son never took to her breast again after the bottle was given. This meant that after she left the hospital, she was pumping before each feed then feeding breastmilk via a bottle. Not surprisingly, given the exhaustion of a new-born, a c-section and double the amount of time required for feeding using this method, she chose to move to formula bottle-feeding. No one ever suggested to her to take a supplement, despite the fact that she has had a breast reduction surgery and is therefore at risk for low milk production. 

Anyhow ... that&#039;s my two cents! Thanks for raising an issue that I hadn&#039;t thought of before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to preface my comments by saying that I am ill-educated on breastfeeding stats, etc. I do believe that the &#8220;breast is best&#8221; (it is nature&#8217;s way, after all!) but I would not classify myself as an advocate per se. Your post is interesting and thoughtful though so I would like to share my thoughts too.</p>
<p>I think that the &#8220;breast is best&#8221; campaigning, while helpful in so many ways, may also be contributing to the large numbers of women who cite &#8220;low milk production&#8221; for why they stopped breastfeeding. It may not be an entirely true response, but it is certainly the one that receives less social scorn when faced with having to provide an answer to why you are not breastfeeding.</p>
<p>As for the use of medication, I know only one person who has ever used meds to increase milk supply and she was an adopting mother. Are there stats for how widespread the use is of these meds? It would be interesting to know because I would suspect that most women &#8220;give up&#8221; breastfeeding before meds are even suggested and that only the most committed and persistent mothers are offered the option of meds when a medical professional is not sure why a baby isn&#8217;t gaining weight.</p>
<p>My girlfriend, as example, just gave birth 2 months ago. Her baby lost a greater % of weight while in hosptial than the hospital considers &#8220;normal&#8221; and so the nursing staff told her it was policy to supplement with formula at that point. Unfortunately though, her son never took to her breast again after the bottle was given. This meant that after she left the hospital, she was pumping before each feed then feeding breastmilk via a bottle. Not surprisingly, given the exhaustion of a new-born, a c-section and double the amount of time required for feeding using this method, she chose to move to formula bottle-feeding. No one ever suggested to her to take a supplement, despite the fact that she has had a breast reduction surgery and is therefore at risk for low milk production. </p>
<p>Anyhow &#8230; that&#8217;s my two cents! Thanks for raising an issue that I hadn&#8217;t thought of before.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work outside the home and am still breastfeeding my 16-month-old daughter 4 - 6 times a day (and 8 - 10 on days that I am home all day). I remember those early days as a new mom when I was SOOOO concerned about milk supply, and it was really stressful wondering whether or not I was doing the right thing.

My baby was a scrawny little thing, too, so the nurses wanted me to supplement (and we did) but in retrospect I don&#039;t think we needed to. 

What I&#039;ve learned (and wish I could have accepted in the beginning, but needed to have the experience to understand) is that my body is more than capable of responding to my baby to make enough milk. My job as a mom is to remove any possible barriers, e.g., eat well, get lots of rest, and RELAX as much as possible about the whole thing.

I did eat lots of oatmeal, and took fenugreek. I don&#039;t regularly do either of those things anymore, now that Eden is a toddler and eating a lot of solids. I figure whatever I produce is what&#039;s right for her, and we&#039;re still going strong!

Thanks for a great post, Amber!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work outside the home and am still breastfeeding my 16-month-old daughter 4 &#8211; 6 times a day (and 8 &#8211; 10 on days that I am home all day). I remember those early days as a new mom when I was SOOOO concerned about milk supply, and it was really stressful wondering whether or not I was doing the right thing.</p>
<p>My baby was a scrawny little thing, too, so the nurses wanted me to supplement (and we did) but in retrospect I don&#8217;t think we needed to. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve learned (and wish I could have accepted in the beginning, but needed to have the experience to understand) is that my body is more than capable of responding to my baby to make enough milk. My job as a mom is to remove any possible barriers, e.g., eat well, get lots of rest, and RELAX as much as possible about the whole thing.</p>
<p>I did eat lots of oatmeal, and took fenugreek. I don&#8217;t regularly do either of those things anymore, now that Eden is a toddler and eating a lot of solids. I figure whatever I produce is what&#8217;s right for her, and we&#8217;re still going strong!</p>
<p>Thanks for a great post, Amber!<br />
.-= Molly´s last post ..<a href="http://mollyjarrell.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-burned-my-boob.html" rel="nofollow">I burned my boob.</a> =-.</p>
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