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		<title>By: Melodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s your tweet button Amber? This is so fantastic. I&#039;m just sorry I&#039;m so late to comment. WHat bugs me the most about this comment is that many people throw this word around in a joking way. I know of people who consider themselves breastfeeding Nazis and laugh about it. I&#039;m glad you brought to attention the fact that this word is getting way too over used to the point that it is taking on a new meaning. I think we need to let it remain meaning what it originally means. To be respectful of its power if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s your tweet button Amber? This is so fantastic. I&#8217;m just sorry I&#8217;m so late to comment. WHat bugs me the most about this comment is that many people throw this word around in a joking way. I know of people who consider themselves breastfeeding Nazis and laugh about it. I&#8217;m glad you brought to attention the fact that this word is getting way too over used to the point that it is taking on a new meaning. I think we need to let it remain meaning what it originally means. To be respectful of its power if nothing else.<br />
<span class="cluv">Melodie&#8217;s last post &#8230; <a class="410a808caf 52732" rel="nofollow" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BreastfeedingMomsUnite/~3/ML0yndhM2Bc/">We Interrupt This Breastfeeding Post…</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  52732" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.strocel.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-52702</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually used the term receipt nazi, referring to myself in the role of doing finances for my family, but in the sense of someone who is keeping a tight reign on things, as some other commenters have suggested. Dictionary.com gives one definition of &quot;nazi&quot; (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nazi) as a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc.

This definition fairly accurately describes many proponents of breastfeeding, but your post made me really think twice about the casual use of the word &quot;nazi&quot; in this manner. On one hand, I think if we give a word with negative associations/history too much power, then it continues to inflict hurt. On the other hand, it could be just as damaging for a word to become so commonplace that people are generally desensitized to the hurtful impact it can have. 

Given that breastfeeding is often such an emotionally charged issue (like just about every other parenting decision), it&#039;s perfectly reasonable not to cause unnecessary friction by throwing out the &quot;breastfeeding nazi&quot; label. People need to learn to discuss different points of view (on any topic) respectfully. I think that goes for breastfeeding advocates and formula feeding moms equally. Too often I see Internet discussions of hot button issues degrade to a level of rude and nasty behavior that most people would never exhibit face-to-face.

As a mom who had no choice but to formula feed due to almost no milk supply, many comments criticizing formula feeding moms with guilt-inducing or accusatory statements (like the first comment on the link above to NYT Motherlode: &quot;Well, if she would rather trust industrial food manufacturing corporations with the responsibility of your infant&#039;s nutrition, far be it from me to stop her. I hear that they are now making chocolate baby formula...&quot;) have often made me wonder what my son is missing out on since my body didn&#039;t work the way it&#039;s supposed to. As a mom who wanted very much to breastfeed, but had no choice other than to rely on formula for food, this type of incendiary statement still hurts. Unfortunately, the wrong person or the wrong words at the wrong time in a mom&#039;s life can do a lot of damage and I believe that this type of judgmental attitude from certain &quot;advocates&quot; is one possible source of the &quot;breastfeeding nazi&quot; label. Two wrongs don&#039;t ever make a right, though. 

The breastfeeding advocates/activists that I follow are all sensitive to situations like mine and other women who struggle and I haven&#039;t seen these types of judgmental statements come from any of them (I’m including Amber in this, naturally). The information that these women provide is so valuable for women who don&#039;t know about the benefits of breastfeeding or who are intimidated by common myths. I hope that the more women who deal with breastfeeding issues the way these women do, the better the communication will be with those who question breastfeeding - and hopefully those who tend to harsh statements will learn to take a kinder, gentler approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually used the term receipt nazi, referring to myself in the role of doing finances for my family, but in the sense of someone who is keeping a tight reign on things, as some other commenters have suggested. Dictionary.com gives one definition of &#8220;nazi&#8221; (<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nazi" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nazi</a>) as a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to control a specified activity, practice, etc.</p>
<p>This definition fairly accurately describes many proponents of breastfeeding, but your post made me really think twice about the casual use of the word &#8220;nazi&#8221; in this manner. On one hand, I think if we give a word with negative associations/history too much power, then it continues to inflict hurt. On the other hand, it could be just as damaging for a word to become so commonplace that people are generally desensitized to the hurtful impact it can have. </p>
<p>Given that breastfeeding is often such an emotionally charged issue (like just about every other parenting decision), it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable not to cause unnecessary friction by throwing out the &#8220;breastfeeding nazi&#8221; label. People need to learn to discuss different points of view (on any topic) respectfully. I think that goes for breastfeeding advocates and formula feeding moms equally. Too often I see Internet discussions of hot button issues degrade to a level of rude and nasty behavior that most people would never exhibit face-to-face.</p>
<p>As a mom who had no choice but to formula feed due to almost no milk supply, many comments criticizing formula feeding moms with guilt-inducing or accusatory statements (like the first comment on the link above to NYT Motherlode: &#8220;Well, if she would rather trust industrial food manufacturing corporations with the responsibility of your infant&#8217;s nutrition, far be it from me to stop her. I hear that they are now making chocolate baby formula&#8230;&#8221;) have often made me wonder what my son is missing out on since my body didn&#8217;t work the way it&#8217;s supposed to. As a mom who wanted very much to breastfeed, but had no choice other than to rely on formula for food, this type of incendiary statement still hurts. Unfortunately, the wrong person or the wrong words at the wrong time in a mom&#8217;s life can do a lot of damage and I believe that this type of judgmental attitude from certain &#8220;advocates&#8221; is one possible source of the &#8220;breastfeeding nazi&#8221; label. Two wrongs don&#8217;t ever make a right, though. </p>
<p>The breastfeeding advocates/activists that I follow are all sensitive to situations like mine and other women who struggle and I haven&#8217;t seen these types of judgmental statements come from any of them (I’m including Amber in this, naturally). The information that these women provide is so valuable for women who don&#8217;t know about the benefits of breastfeeding or who are intimidated by common myths. I hope that the more women who deal with breastfeeding issues the way these women do, the better the communication will be with those who question breastfeeding &#8211; and hopefully those who tend to harsh statements will learn to take a kinder, gentler approach.<br />
<span class="cluv">Karen&#8217;s last post &#8230; <a class="ee4e4ff469 52702" rel="nofollow" href="http://karenschronicles.squarespace.com/blog/2010/6/30/wordless-wednesday-sleepy.html">Wordless Wednesday- Sleepy</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  52702" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.strocel.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Carol LactivistLeanings</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-55831</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol LactivistLeanings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candace - You nailed it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace &#8211; You nailed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace Lindemann</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-55830</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace Lindemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Language matters.  As a history teacher, I was very clear with my students that they needed to be very careful when referencing Nazis, fascists, or Hitler.People who use the term &quot;Nazi&quot; because they think they are being clever need to understand what they are really saying.Most people using this in discussion know (at least vaguely) who Hitler was and what the Nazis did.  Just like kids calling things &quot;gay&quot; have some vague understanding of the dual use of that word.  If they don&#039;t, they should learn.Pointing out why it is wrong to use inexact and potentially hurtful language is constructive, in my opinion.I&#039;m all for humor...and in theory anything is fair game for a joke...but casual use of &quot;Nazi&quot; as a put down is not humor.  It is lazy argumentation and insulting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Language matters.  As a history teacher, I was very clear with my students that they needed to be very careful when referencing Nazis, fascists, or Hitler.People who use the term &quot;Nazi&quot; because they think they are being clever need to understand what they are really saying.Most people using this in discussion know (at least vaguely) who Hitler was and what the Nazis did.  Just like kids calling things &quot;gay&quot; have some vague understanding of the dual use of that word.  If they don&#039;t, they should learn.Pointing out why it is wrong to use inexact and potentially hurtful language is constructive, in my opinion.I&#039;m all for humor&#8230;and in theory anything is fair game for a joke&#8230;but casual use of &quot;Nazi&quot; as a put down is not humor.  It is lazy argumentation and insulting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-52644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might also add that my knowledge of the Holocaust basically extends to my having read The Diary of Anne Frank. So when it comes to knowing the actual root of the term, consider me ignorant. And feel free to correct me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might also add that my knowledge of the Holocaust basically extends to my having read The Diary of Anne Frank. So when it comes to knowing the actual root of the term, consider me ignorant. And feel free to correct me.<br />
<span class="cluv">Jennifer&#8217;s last post &#8230; <a class="73ed1fadec 52644" rel="nofollow" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Paramomal/~3/ciOvr_IntcE/">A Life Loved</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  52644" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.strocel.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have used the term Nazi on rare occasions, as in- a couple of times when I likened the kids to be Nazis (where the term &lt;a&gt;Nazi&lt;/a&gt; actually refers, basically, to a fascist. Or-&quot;: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control &quot;) But, considering that that control was taken to the extreme, genocide, the term leaves a bitter taste in ones mouth. When I used the term, it was in a light-hearted, joking manner not meant to offend. Though, *meant to* and what actually resulted may very well be two different things.

But I won&#039;t keep babbling.

I tend to agree with Coffee With Julie- The term &quot;breastfeeding Nazi&quot; is meant to offend in most cases, I think, maybe turning an advocate into a laughingstock. And anything meant to demean, belittle, another person based on lifestyle (breast feeder or otherwise) is- well- not cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have used the term Nazi on rare occasions, as in- a couple of times when I likened the kids to be Nazis (where the term <a>Nazi</a> actually refers, basically, to a fascist. Or-&#8221;: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control &#8220;) But, considering that that control was taken to the extreme, genocide, the term leaves a bitter taste in ones mouth. When I used the term, it was in a light-hearted, joking manner not meant to offend. Though, *meant to* and what actually resulted may very well be two different things.</p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t keep babbling.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with Coffee With Julie- The term &#8220;breastfeeding Nazi&#8221; is meant to offend in most cases, I think, maybe turning an advocate into a laughingstock. And anything meant to demean, belittle, another person based on lifestyle (breast feeder or otherwise) is- well- not cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesca</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-52641</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my language you couldn&#039;t use the term &quot;nazi&quot; lightly, and I can&#039;t judge the kind of cultural connotations it has in English.
About breastfeeding, I just read this:
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/is-breastfeeding-creepy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my language you couldn&#8217;t use the term &#8220;nazi&#8221; lightly, and I can&#8217;t judge the kind of cultural connotations it has in English.<br />
About breastfeeding, I just read this:<br />
<a href="http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/is-breastfeeding-creepy/" rel="nofollow">http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/is-breastfeeding-creepy/</a><br />
<span class="cluv">Francesca&#8217;s last post &#8230; <a class="4d9e7e076e 52641" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fuoriborgo.com/fuoriborgo/2010/06/corner-view-summer.html">Corner View  summer</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  52641" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.strocel.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Amber Krause Strocel</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-55829</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber Krause Strocel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing that,  Annie. It makes a far more eloquent point than I ever could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing that,  Annie. It makes a far more eloquent point than I ever could.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m a little ambivalent here too.  I think word usage and language evolution and slippage occur, so I&#039;m not rigid in insisting that anyone who uses the term Nazi is being disrespectful to holocaust victims.  You say &#039;it&#039;s uncool to dismiss a whole group of people who are only trying to help&quot; and &quot;it doesn&#039;t make US Nazis&quot;, but the thing is, Amber, like you said, you&#039;re a breastfeeding advocate.  In my mind, you&#039;re the furthest thing away from what I would mean if I used or thought the term &#039;breastfeeding Nazi&#039;.  But the &#039;lactation consultant&#039; in the hospital who harangued my roommate who had just given birth, and the people who write letters to the paper saying &#039;breast is best - period&#039;, and the La Leche League person who berated my sister&#039;s friend who was going to wean her two-year-old because she was trying to get pregnant again and had miscarried twice already?  These are something other than advocates.  They are zealots.  I think some people could be forgiven if people like this cause the term &#039;Nazi&#039; to cross their minds.  Good food for thought here, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m a little ambivalent here too.  I think word usage and language evolution and slippage occur, so I&#8217;m not rigid in insisting that anyone who uses the term Nazi is being disrespectful to holocaust victims.  You say &#8216;it&#8217;s uncool to dismiss a whole group of people who are only trying to help&#8221; and &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t make US Nazis&#8221;, but the thing is, Amber, like you said, you&#8217;re a breastfeeding advocate.  In my mind, you&#8217;re the furthest thing away from what I would mean if I used or thought the term &#8216;breastfeeding Nazi&#8217;.  But the &#8216;lactation consultant&#8217; in the hospital who harangued my roommate who had just given birth, and the people who write letters to the paper saying &#8216;breast is best &#8211; period&#8217;, and the La Leche League person who berated my sister&#8217;s friend who was going to wean her two-year-old because she was trying to get pregnant again and had miscarried twice already?  These are something other than advocates.  They are zealots.  I think some people could be forgiven if people like this cause the term &#8216;Nazi&#8217; to cross their minds.  Good food for thought here, though.<br />
<span class="cluv">allison&#8217;s last post &#8230; <a class="165edbe7a7 52624" rel="nofollow" href="http://bibliomama2.blogspot.com/2010/06/young-girl-and-sea.html">The Young Girl and the Sea</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip  52624" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.strocel.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Annie Phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/calling-people-nazis-is-uncool/#comment-55828</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to hear from someone who was affected by the Holocaust, read this: http://www.themudflats.net/2009/08/21/nazis/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to hear from someone who was affected by the Holocaust, read this: <a href="http://www.themudflats.net/2009/08/21/nazis/" rel="nofollow">http://www.themudflats.net/2009/08/21/nazis/</a></p>
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