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		<title>By: Jen L</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-49380</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 22:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain!  When my now-7-year-old son was 3, I was shopping with him in a lovely accessories shop in Market Square in Saint John, NB, 20 minutes from my hometown of Quispamsis.  I was browsing the umbrellas and purses.  My son was sitting quietly looking at some bags on the bottom  shelf.  He was being sooo good, it was just  a wonderful outing - which I sorely needed.  

Now, the problem was that he was sitting in the middle of an aisle.  As we were browsing, an employee of the shop came back from buying lunch, and was holding a tray.  She stopped about 4 feet from my son and stood there.  She looked at him, then she looked at me.  Then she looked back at him.  &lt;&gt;  I don&#039;t know if I was waiting for her to say, &quot;excuse me,&quot; but I know she had me flustered and eventually I found my wits and shooed him out of her way.  

We left the store, but then I remembered what a nice day we&#039;d been having, and felt again how much I NEEDED that nice day, and (here&#039;s where mama bear starts to bare her teeth) how wronged I felt for my son, who was doing nothing wrong and had not been afforded the simple courtesy given to adults: that simple &quot;excuse me&quot;. 

Sooo, I took my son&#039;s hand and marched into the store and up to the counter, where the woman was chatting with a coworker.  If the store hadn&#039;t been empty, I might not have proceeded.  But it was, and so I told this stately, well-groomed shopkeeper (straight from Pretty Woman&#039;s &quot;before&quot; shopping trip) that my son was a person, too, and all she had to do was to say &quot;Excuse me&quot; to him and he would move.  Flushed, indignant, and just plain mad, I told her that she was very rude to just stand there, expecting us to move out of her way simply because she was glaring at us.  Who taught her such manners?  My son may be small, I said, but he knows to move aside if someone says &quot;excuse me&quot; or even &quot;please move&quot;.  I then turned and whirled out of the store, never to return again.  Which is saying something, because they have REALLY nice purses and umbrellas. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain!  When my now-7-year-old son was 3, I was shopping with him in a lovely accessories shop in Market Square in Saint John, NB, 20 minutes from my hometown of Quispamsis.  I was browsing the umbrellas and purses.  My son was sitting quietly looking at some bags on the bottom  shelf.  He was being sooo good, it was just  a wonderful outing &#8211; which I sorely needed.  </p>
<p>Now, the problem was that he was sitting in the middle of an aisle.  As we were browsing, an employee of the shop came back from buying lunch, and was holding a tray.  She stopped about 4 feet from my son and stood there.  She looked at him, then she looked at me.  Then she looked back at him.  &lt;&gt;  I don&#8217;t know if I was waiting for her to say, &#8220;excuse me,&#8221; but I know she had me flustered and eventually I found my wits and shooed him out of her way.  </p>
<p>We left the store, but then I remembered what a nice day we&#8217;d been having, and felt again how much I NEEDED that nice day, and (here&#8217;s where mama bear starts to bare her teeth) how wronged I felt for my son, who was doing nothing wrong and had not been afforded the simple courtesy given to adults: that simple &#8220;excuse me&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo, I took my son&#8217;s hand and marched into the store and up to the counter, where the woman was chatting with a coworker.  If the store hadn&#8217;t been empty, I might not have proceeded.  But it was, and so I told this stately, well-groomed shopkeeper (straight from Pretty Woman&#8217;s &#8220;before&#8221; shopping trip) that my son was a person, too, and all she had to do was to say &#8220;Excuse me&#8221; to him and he would move.  Flushed, indignant, and just plain mad, I told her that she was very rude to just stand there, expecting us to move out of her way simply because she was glaring at us.  Who taught her such manners?  My son may be small, I said, but he knows to move aside if someone says &#8220;excuse me&#8221; or even &#8220;please move&#8221;.  I then turned and whirled out of the store, never to return again.  Which is saying something, because they have REALLY nice purses and umbrellas. <img src='http://www.strocel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: &#187; On Having No Life Strocel.com</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-42967</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; On Having No Life Strocel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had precisely one dinner in a restaurant in the past 14 months. And, during that lone dinner, someone complained about being seated near my children. In short, I live a very typical lifestyle as the mom of two [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had precisely one dinner in a restaurant in the past 14 months. And, during that lone dinner, someone complained about being seated near my children. In short, I live a very typical lifestyle as the mom of two [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-41265</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inexcusable.  

It really doesn&#039;t matter how anyone feels about sitting next to children, being near children, having a baby on an airplane, etc.  They don&#039;t get to decide that.  As you&#039;ve said, children happen to be people, too, and they get to take up space in this world just like everybody else...  

My blood pressure went up just reading your post--you must have been so angry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inexcusable.  </p>
<p>It really doesn&#8217;t matter how anyone feels about sitting next to children, being near children, having a baby on an airplane, etc.  They don&#8217;t get to decide that.  As you&#8217;ve said, children happen to be people, too, and they get to take up space in this world just like everybody else&#8230;  </p>
<p>My blood pressure went up just reading your post&#8211;you must have been so angry!</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-41227</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@melodie That&#039;s ridiculous that you had to move because of a large party. Large parties are louder than most kids.

I&#039;ve worked in a restaurant for almost 5 years and we get a few kids each night. Most of the time they&#039;re no trouble. It bothers me when I see families eating out at 10pm since their kids are obviously tired. 

We rarely eat out and when do we usually do it without the kids, but we were surprised how good they were the last time we went out.

Ps. Congrats on your guest post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@melodie That&#8217;s ridiculous that you had to move because of a large party. Large parties are louder than most kids.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked in a restaurant for almost 5 years and we get a few kids each night. Most of the time they&#8217;re no trouble. It bothers me when I see families eating out at 10pm since their kids are obviously tired. </p>
<p>We rarely eat out and when do we usually do it without the kids, but we were surprised how good they were the last time we went out.</p>
<p>Ps. Congrats on your guest post</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-41197</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today while I was pumping gas my children screamed their little faces off.  It was hot.  My windows were down.  I am sure everyone in a 3 block radius of the gas station heard them.  It was horrible.  But, I didn&#039;t stop pumping my gas.  Thank goodness for pay at the pump though....as soon as the gas was done, I hopped in my car and sped off!  Some times kids can be rangy...sometimes adults can be too...parking lots at Christmas time comes to mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today while I was pumping gas my children screamed their little faces off.  It was hot.  My windows were down.  I am sure everyone in a 3 block radius of the gas station heard them.  It was horrible.  But, I didn&#8217;t stop pumping my gas.  Thank goodness for pay at the pump though&#8230;.as soon as the gas was done, I hopped in my car and sped off!  Some times kids can be rangy&#8230;sometimes adults can be too&#8230;parking lots at Christmas time comes to mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-41193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t had any bad experiences with people saying something or glaring, but I can definitely relate with the uncomfortable feeling.  My two-year-old throws the loudest, nastiest tantrums I&#039;ve ever seen.  She usually goes into one right when we&#039;re shopping in a quiet place like Earth Fare or Whole Foods, but we can&#039;t just up and leave.  We have to drive for an hour to get to those places, so we hardly ever go and there are certain things we have to buy!  I feel like there are people looking at me thinking I&#039;m not being patient enough with my daughter, and yet others who think I ought to smack her (which I am not going to do).  I know her tantrums aren&#039;t any fun to witness, but we still have to go out in public sometimes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had any bad experiences with people saying something or glaring, but I can definitely relate with the uncomfortable feeling.  My two-year-old throws the loudest, nastiest tantrums I&#8217;ve ever seen.  She usually goes into one right when we&#8217;re shopping in a quiet place like Earth Fare or Whole Foods, but we can&#8217;t just up and leave.  We have to drive for an hour to get to those places, so we hardly ever go and there are certain things we have to buy!  I feel like there are people looking at me thinking I&#8217;m not being patient enough with my daughter, and yet others who think I ought to smack her (which I am not going to do).  I know her tantrums aren&#8217;t any fun to witness, but we still have to go out in public sometimes!</p>
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		<title>By: Maria@Conversations with Moms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria@Conversations with Moms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That woman was so illogical in so many ways, I cannot even begin to number them.  If she wanted a quiet dinner, she should have stayed home.

I remember once with Jeffrey was around 2, he pulled such a tantrum (very rare) in a store that everyone was staring.  I was trying desperately to quiet him down and started making my way out when I saw it wasn&#039;t going to work.  I overheard one of the associates from the store tell her colleague, &quot;she doesn&#039;t know how to handle her kid&quot;.  Kids get tired, they sometimes get out of hand, but at that moment, I felt a little like I didn&#039;t know what I was doing.  Then I snapped out of it and realized that she was in the wrong, not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That woman was so illogical in so many ways, I cannot even begin to number them.  If she wanted a quiet dinner, she should have stayed home.</p>
<p>I remember once with Jeffrey was around 2, he pulled such a tantrum (very rare) in a store that everyone was staring.  I was trying desperately to quiet him down and started making my way out when I saw it wasn&#8217;t going to work.  I overheard one of the associates from the store tell her colleague, &#8220;she doesn&#8217;t know how to handle her kid&#8221;.  Kids get tired, they sometimes get out of hand, but at that moment, I felt a little like I didn&#8217;t know what I was doing.  Then I snapped out of it and realized that she was in the wrong, not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently saw a woman looking painfully embarrassed as her kid was having a meltdown. I just smiled at her and said, &quot;hey, mine do that too&quot;.

Depending on my mood, I can be quite flippant; I may have turned to them and said, &quot;fine with me, I&#039;ve had people better than you not want to sit by me&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently saw a woman looking painfully embarrassed as her kid was having a meltdown. I just smiled at her and said, &#8220;hey, mine do that too&#8221;.</p>
<p>Depending on my mood, I can be quite flippant; I may have turned to them and said, &#8220;fine with me, I&#8217;ve had people better than you not want to sit by me&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis</title>
		<link>http://www.strocel.com/kids-are-people-too/#comment-41175</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my son was just a couple of weeks old, I was in a department store shopping for nursing bras. My son, in his stroller, started making a few mewling sounds in his sleep, as newborns do. Standing *thisclose* to him, I kept looking at bras while waiting to see if he was going to stay asleep or wake up &amp; want to nurse. He&#039;d been making  noise for less than 30 seconds (seriously) when a woman, another shopper, came over to me and started chastising me for not picking him up immediately. I told her he was still asleep and likely to stay that way. She then demanded that I let HER pick him up because SHE would know how to deal with a baby (strongly implying that I, his mother, who had been with him every f&amp;cking second since he&#039;d been born, did not). I asked her if she had kids. Of course she didn&#039;t...

The children in restaurants issue is (as far as I&#039;ve experienced) a peculiarly North American one. Last summer I was in the south of France, eating in restaurants every night. I&#039;d been concerned about bringing my then 2 month old to some of those places, but needn&#039;t have worried. There were children (especially babies &amp; toddlers) everywhere, even the Michelin 2 star restaurant we went to. More often than not, the servers offered to hold the baby while I enjoyed my dinner. In France, children are recognized as people and treated as such. They are a part of life, as is good food. Parents are not relegated to the Chuck E Cheese equivalent for the sin of having reproduced. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my son was just a couple of weeks old, I was in a department store shopping for nursing bras. My son, in his stroller, started making a few mewling sounds in his sleep, as newborns do. Standing *thisclose* to him, I kept looking at bras while waiting to see if he was going to stay asleep or wake up &amp; want to nurse. He&#8217;d been making  noise for less than 30 seconds (seriously) when a woman, another shopper, came over to me and started chastising me for not picking him up immediately. I told her he was still asleep and likely to stay that way. She then demanded that I let HER pick him up because SHE would know how to deal with a baby (strongly implying that I, his mother, who had been with him every f&amp;cking second since he&#8217;d been born, did not). I asked her if she had kids. Of course she didn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>The children in restaurants issue is (as far as I&#8217;ve experienced) a peculiarly North American one. Last summer I was in the south of France, eating in restaurants every night. I&#8217;d been concerned about bringing my then 2 month old to some of those places, but needn&#8217;t have worried. There were children (especially babies &amp; toddlers) everywhere, even the Michelin 2 star restaurant we went to. More often than not, the servers offered to hold the baby while I enjoyed my dinner. In France, children are recognized as people and treated as such. They are a part of life, as is good food. Parents are not relegated to the Chuck E Cheese equivalent for the sin of having reproduced. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: kgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words - fuck em. Your kids weren&#039;t doing anything wrong. These were fussy, bitter, unhappy people. Shame for them. 

I wrote about having to leave a restaurant not too long ago - http://bit.ly/xGpWM wonder what those people would have thought of my family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words &#8211; fuck em. Your kids weren&#8217;t doing anything wrong. These were fussy, bitter, unhappy people. Shame for them. </p>
<p>I wrote about having to leave a restaurant not too long ago &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/xGpWM" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/xGpWM</a> wonder what those people would have thought of my family?</p>
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